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BAV Pt's daughter
October 5th, 2005, 11:37 PM
Proposed valve to be used in upcoming valve replacement surgery:

Magna (Bovine) Valve prosthesis "MOOOOO"
by Edwards Lab

:confused: Anyone out there have this one? :confused: Any advice or any comments? :confused: I'd love your input!!!!

JohnnyV_46
October 6th, 2005, 01:31 AM
I had to dig out my Warranty card and see what it said on it...I have an Edwards Model 3000TFX Size 29mm Aortic Bovine pericardial Tissue valve..We've been together 7 weeks this coming Friday. Other than the occasional urge to MOOOOOOoooo. It's been great! I can't bring myself to eat a Hamburger yet as I feel this may be somehow cannibalistic. We had talked about Pig valves and I really knew nothing about Cow valves until the surgery was over, I got home and found this web site. Doctor told me the Cow was better than the pig...So here I am. :) Sooorry it wasn't about your specific Valve. :(

jayaresq
October 6th, 2005, 03:51 AM
Hi. I got mine 10 weeks ago. And while I hope to keep mine a lot longer, so far so good. :) Once I decided to go with a tissue valve, my doctors preferred the Carpentier-Edwards Magna 3000tfx over the alternatives because of its acclaimed durability, promising clinical findings and new anti-calcification treatment, which was an improvement over the previous model.

I take an aspirin a day. I have gradually increased my exercise without problem. I watch my diet more carefully because if I'm blessed with good fortune, I'll outlive my current valve and one or two more. It makes good sense to keep my body in better shape to better face the future.

My daughter and I are happy to now hear my strong, clear heartbeat, instead of my old, whooshing BAV murmur. I'm grateful and pleased with my results and my moo valve all the way around. Hope your dad will be, too.

Best of luck to both your dad & you. The worst part was the waiting. -- Jim

tobagotwo
October 6th, 2005, 07:15 AM
Of the xenograft valves, The Carpentier-Edwards bovine pericardial valves (the Perimount Magna is a "new, better, improved" model of those) have the strongest history of lasting the longest. It is an excellent valve, and an excellent choice for a tissue valve.

Best wishes,

Phyllis
October 6th, 2005, 07:28 AM
Dick has had his Edwards Magna for almost two years now and is doing great. You might want to take a look at the Edwards site: http://www.lifeisnow.com/
Best wishes to your Dad.

Mary
October 6th, 2005, 08:04 AM
I'll echo what the others have said. I received a Carpentier-Edwards Magna
3000 size 21 four months ago. Everything I've read makes me believe it's a winner. :)

inlaguna
October 6th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Edwards Magna for me and it is doing great. I starting putting it to the test about 5 weeks after surgery with running etc and now I exercise almost every day of the week, either swimming, lifting or running.

I am very happy with my choice at this point!

I am trying to set up a tour of the Edwards facility as I live right down the street. I hear I can even meet the person who sewed my valve.

Dan

BAV Pt's daughter
October 6th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Thanks for the response... makes me feel a lot better about the doc's suggestion!!! I am so glad to have stumbled upon this site!

coryp
October 6th, 2005, 07:08 PM
Hi. I got mine 10 weeks ago. And while I hope to keep mine a lot longer, so far so good. :) Once I decided to go with a tissue valve, my doctors preferred the Carpentier-Edwards Magna 3000tfx over the alternatives because of its acclaimed durability, promising clinical findings and new anti-calcification treatment, which was an improvement over the previous model.

I take an aspirin a day. I have gradually increased my exercise without problem. I watch my diet more carefully because if I'm blessed with good fortune, I'll outlive my current valve and one or two more. It makes good sense to keep my body in better shape to better face the future.

My daughter and I are happy to now hear my strong, clear heartbeat, instead of my old, whooshing BAV murmur. I'm grateful and pleased with my results and my moo valve all the way around. Hope your dad will be, too.

Best of luck to both your dad & you. The worst part was the waiting. -- Jim

Have you checked for a post op murmur? I am 13 weeks and still have the murmur although doc says it is normal because of the increased efficiency of the heart.??

coryp
October 6th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Thanks for the response... makes me feel a lot better about the doc's suggestion!!! I am so glad to have stumbled upon this site!



I echo the same as the others almost 4 mths for me and it seems great.

All the reading I did suggested that this was one of the premier valves.

JohnnyV_46
October 6th, 2005, 08:03 PM
Wow, a whole Thread full of us "Mooooers!" Nice seeing you all!

MooooooooooooooooooO!

Mary
October 6th, 2005, 08:12 PM
Wow, a whole Thread full of us "Mooooers!" Nice seeing you all!

MooooooooooooooooooO!


Mooooooooooooooooooo back to ya!

geebee
October 6th, 2005, 08:22 PM
Angela,
I just have one question (and I apologize if I missed it) but how old is your mom? I am just curious as to why the bovine was suggested and not a mechanical. I don't want to start an arguement above valve choices, I am just curious.

BAV Pt's daughter
October 6th, 2005, 08:32 PM
Angela,
I just have one question (and I apologize if I missed it) but how old is your mom? I am just curious as to why the bovine was suggested and not a mechanical. I don't want to start an arguement above valve choices, I am just curious.

She is 51. They first suggested mechanical, but then Dr Raissi at Cedars-Sinai states that he thinks this would work better. Do you have other thoughts? We are happy to avoig some of the complications of mechanical. This Moooo-er is supposed to last about 20 yrs, and can be replaced via the groin should the need even arise. I dont know what other contributing factors there are. This call was made after he reviewed all records and films.

Thoughts guys???

Phyllis
October 6th, 2005, 08:40 PM
Angela,
The hope is that these valves will last 20 years- there are no guarantees, but Dick had his surgery at 71 and did fine with it. I think the replacement by groin that you are talking about is by cathetar and is still rarely used and only on patients who are too ill to have regular valve replacement. There is a thread on the forum about the procedure: http://valvereplacement.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11320
We all hope that this will become the standard for valve replacement some day, but that is questionable at this time. I am interested to know who told you that it could always be replaced via the groin??

geebee
October 6th, 2005, 08:41 PM
Sorry - I haven't heard about replacement via the groin. If that is the case then the bovine valve makes sense.
This is such a controversial topic on this website and I don't want to start a debate. I am simply one who would always opt for the path that does not require resurgery. However, by resurgery I mean OHS, so if a groin replacement is the case then I will keep quiet about a mechanical.

BAV Pt's daughter
October 6th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Angela,
The hope is that these valves will last 20 years- there are no guarantees, but Dick had his surgery at 71 and did fine with it. I think the replacement by groin that you are talking about is by cathetar and is still rarely used and only on patients who are too ill to have regular valve replacement. There is a thread on the forum about the procedure: http://valvereplacement.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11320
We all hope that this will become the standard for valve replacement some day, but that is questionable at this time. I am interested to know who told you that it could always be replaced via the groin??

They did not tell us "always"--just that they anticipation was that would be the acceptable norm by the time she would need it. I will definately put this down in my notebook of questions to ask between now and surgery. And I'll look at the link and get it to mom too. Thanks

rbl1999
October 9th, 2005, 07:02 AM
Hi, I also have the Carpentier Edwards bovine, had it done in July and am doing very well. all the best for your mom...Rose

phil d
October 9th, 2005, 09:12 AM
When i asked my surgeon about a tissue valve he recommended the Edwards bovine valve. I've had mine for 3 weeks now and i feel great, apart from this urge to chew the grass in my back yard. He he :D
Phil

Lynlw
October 9th, 2005, 10:57 AM
My son Justin is 17 and got the CE bovine in May in the pulmonary valve, he is doing great, we talked to 4 heart centers/cards/surgeons and were happy they all recomended the same thing for Justin, Lyn www.caringbridge.org/nj/justinw

Ross
October 9th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Well they say California cows are happy cows........... :D

geebee
October 9th, 2005, 01:06 PM
Well they say California cows are happy cows........... :D
Nothing beats a foot massage. ;) :D :cool:

dbuenting
October 9th, 2005, 02:52 PM
When i asked my surgeon about a tissue valve he recommended the Edwards bovine valve. I've had mine for 3 weeks now and i feel great, apart from this urge to chew the grass in my back yard. He he :D
Phil
Saves on gas for the lawn mower. I will not feel right about eating beef, it could be my cousin!

BAV Pt's daughter
October 11th, 2005, 11:14 AM
When i asked my surgeon about a tissue valve he recommended the Edwards bovine valve. I've had mine for 3 weeks now and i feel great, apart from this urge to chew the grass in my back yard. He he :D
Phil
We'll try to keep mom out of the grass, then. Thanks for the tip. :D :D

catwoman
October 11th, 2005, 12:57 PM
They did not tell us "always"--just that they anticipation was that would be the acceptable norm by the time she would need it. I will definately put this down in my notebook of questions to ask between now and surgery. And I'll look at the link and get it to mom too. Thanks

Someone who tracks developments in the medical profession for a living told me about 2 months ago that research was being done on mechanical VR via catheter.
I first thought he meant tissue and said such, and was corrected. Don't know where, time frame, etc.

BAV Pt's daughter
October 11th, 2005, 01:02 PM
Someone who tracks developments in the medical profession for a living told me about 2 months ago that research was being done on mechanical VR via catheter.
I first thought he meant tissue and said such, and was corrected. Don't know where, time frame, etc.
Would be nice to be able to avoid another OHS if/when replacement issues arise. Lets hope they've got this perfected by the time this rolls around...

Ram Patel
October 11th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Proposed valve to be used in upcoming valve replacement surgery:

Magna (Bovine) Valve prosthesis "MOOOOO"
by Edwards Lab

:confused: Anyone out there have this one? :confused: Any advice or any comments? :confused: I'd love your input!!!!

I don't know much about all these new valves coming in the market. But I do know that Edwards makes very good valve. I have one since 1977 and it still doing very well.

hhardt
October 12th, 2005, 09:58 PM
I've had my bovine valve since March 2001 and I really enjoy looking down at the grass.